
kshitijnt
06-26 02:08 PM
I totally agree with you, but think about this.
For every couple who plan to leave, there are 5 couples anxious to replace them. Do you know the % of visas approved vs visa applicants?.The 5 couples could be from anywhere, not just from india where the economy is in good shape.
My point is that America does lose when someone goes back.But the loss is on a very very micro level----and replacement is not that difficult.
I have already said that those being replaced will come in at a lower salary and contributing less taxes. Because if you are in late 20s, early 30s then you are about to settle down. I dont know how many people at this level want to come to America. Even in India people at this age will not want to come to US if they have children who are about to go to school. So these guys will most probably be replaced with younger workers.
Again, how long this game of fooling people will go on?
People from other countries are there and willing but they dont have the same NUMBERS that India and China have. Like can 5000 people of SAME quality and salary come here from say western europe? If they can, why are they not trying it already? I work with lot of europeans in my team. I think they want to visit here but dont want to live here.
For every couple who plan to leave, there are 5 couples anxious to replace them. Do you know the % of visas approved vs visa applicants?.The 5 couples could be from anywhere, not just from india where the economy is in good shape.
My point is that America does lose when someone goes back.But the loss is on a very very micro level----and replacement is not that difficult.
I have already said that those being replaced will come in at a lower salary and contributing less taxes. Because if you are in late 20s, early 30s then you are about to settle down. I dont know how many people at this level want to come to America. Even in India people at this age will not want to come to US if they have children who are about to go to school. So these guys will most probably be replaced with younger workers.
Again, how long this game of fooling people will go on?
People from other countries are there and willing but they dont have the same NUMBERS that India and China have. Like can 5000 people of SAME quality and salary come here from say western europe? If they can, why are they not trying it already? I work with lot of europeans in my team. I think they want to visit here but dont want to live here.
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chanduv23
07-11 12:22 PM
employer can withdraw the 140 any time before the approval of 485 - there is no time limit.
That is right. But one MUST NOT worry about it as long as they have a job in hand with same or similar duties. Things to watch out are
(1) AC21 letter
(2) G28 properly filed
(3) NOID
(4) Denial - happened in some cases and reopened through MTR
Now even if your old employer did not revoke 140 you may get an RFE.
That is right. But one MUST NOT worry about it as long as they have a job in hand with same or similar duties. Things to watch out are
(1) AC21 letter
(2) G28 properly filed
(3) NOID
(4) Denial - happened in some cases and reopened through MTR
Now even if your old employer did not revoke 140 you may get an RFE.

micofrost
07-18 06:57 PM
Does PD exist just to be able to file I-485? Or as some members say, does it also play a role after filing I-485 for adjudication? Does CIS go by PD or RD when the visas are limited?
Let's say A has PD(Priority date) Dec 2004 and RD(Receipt Date) Jul 25 2007, and B has PD Mar 2007 and RD Jul 2 2007. Who would be adjudicated first?
If visa numbers are current for both of them, then its a matter of luck, whose application gets processed quickly and which guy's application reaches to the approval officer first. That time both have equal chance.
Ofcourse PD is considered for VISA numbers, not the RD. RD is good for portability issues like AC21/180 days rule. So B can switch jobs 23 days before A. Again that (180 days rule)also as per some lawyers isnt a hard n fast rule. Hope it helps.
Let's say A has PD(Priority date) Dec 2004 and RD(Receipt Date) Jul 25 2007, and B has PD Mar 2007 and RD Jul 2 2007. Who would be adjudicated first?
If visa numbers are current for both of them, then its a matter of luck, whose application gets processed quickly and which guy's application reaches to the approval officer first. That time both have equal chance.
Ofcourse PD is considered for VISA numbers, not the RD. RD is good for portability issues like AC21/180 days rule. So B can switch jobs 23 days before A. Again that (180 days rule)also as per some lawyers isnt a hard n fast rule. Hope it helps.
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chanduv23
07-06 10:14 AM
Be careful in choosing the wording. Don't bad mouth the agencies or talk about scandals and security lapses. Just concentrate on how this fiasco affected you and millions of people legally waiting in line
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jonty_11
07-06 12:58 PM
I see lots of frustration here. July fillers, you will definitely feel good after hearing my story. At least you are not in my situation. Read this: I was eligible to file in June under June visa bulletin. My deshi blood s^#$* employer did not provide me the letter in time. I am in my 7th year of H1B and they refused to provide my I-140 approval copy. I have the receipt# only. Attorney will not give it to me either. Now what should I do. You guys at lest will be able to file may be in future. What about me! Please suggest anyone!! Now I can not go to a new employer also! See, you are in better position than mine.
why cant u go to another employer...I think if ur current employer is not willing to file 485 for u..then u have NO OPTION BUT TO SWITCH EMPLOYER....
why cant u go to another employer...I think if ur current employer is not willing to file 485 for u..then u have NO OPTION BUT TO SWITCH EMPLOYER....

go_guy123
02-24 01:20 PM
Dont assume that people who gone back to India and working a manager are living happily without any issues.
One of my friends whome I used to work in 2005 was promoted to manager in 2007. Now he is in a dilemma whether to continue to go up the ladder or come back doing technical stuff. Salary wise he is not getting that much and he doesnt know how the company will do infuture. It all depends on US economy. If you are looking for 18L above salary, then it is very very tough to get a job in india.
Very coreect uma...you can forget career growth in India without a MBA degree.
One of my friends whome I used to work in 2005 was promoted to manager in 2007. Now he is in a dilemma whether to continue to go up the ladder or come back doing technical stuff. Salary wise he is not getting that much and he doesnt know how the company will do infuture. It all depends on US economy. If you are looking for 18L above salary, then it is very very tough to get a job in india.
Very coreect uma...you can forget career growth in India without a MBA degree.
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validIV
03-04 11:08 AM
Just refinanced with Chase. I have a pending I-485 and am on EAD. They just asked for all the paper work and it was a non issue. I think you just have a crappy lender.
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arunmohan
07-11 02:49 PM
paskal, thanks for the reply. whats very frustrating for me is, these guys mess up so badly and they get away with no trace , we all know that this happened in the past and probably is happening currently too. All we are asking is a fair FIFO method and proper usage of visa numbers with transparency. The mere fact that they are not transparent raises many doubts in many minds. And these questions are not coming from those people who filed for their greecards an year or 2 ago..i just read a post in this same thread that this person has been waiting for his green card for 10 years...this is the height of ridiculousness and there is a limit for our patience, and this is it...
Thanks Paskal, atleast he is going to ask from members of IV who are in touch with USCIS about EB3 situation. I will still urge to IV team to use FOIA to find out EB3 situation. We need to know the number because I know people who ever filed I-485 before Dec 31, 2004, most of them have received GC in June/July 2007.
We don't know when this date is going reach 2003 or 2004 because it was stuck Nov, 200 before it became unavailable. Most of EB3 folks were and are entitle to EB2 but due attorneys and company's policy we filed under EB3. Since most of us are working on EAD and we cannot convert EB3 to EB2. If some one have option to convert from EB3 to EB2, we don't know how long it will take(due to backlog of I140) and what could be the endresult. We need to stand together and need to find a possible option to do something. Otherwise we are in deep mess and we will in deep mess after 2 years or 3 years.
Please give us your feedback.
Thanks Paskal, atleast he is going to ask from members of IV who are in touch with USCIS about EB3 situation. I will still urge to IV team to use FOIA to find out EB3 situation. We need to know the number because I know people who ever filed I-485 before Dec 31, 2004, most of them have received GC in June/July 2007.
We don't know when this date is going reach 2003 or 2004 because it was stuck Nov, 200 before it became unavailable. Most of EB3 folks were and are entitle to EB2 but due attorneys and company's policy we filed under EB3. Since most of us are working on EAD and we cannot convert EB3 to EB2. If some one have option to convert from EB3 to EB2, we don't know how long it will take(due to backlog of I140) and what could be the endresult. We need to stand together and need to find a possible option to do something. Otherwise we are in deep mess and we will in deep mess after 2 years or 3 years.
Please give us your feedback.
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optimist578
01-03 03:01 PM
I am confused and think about this daily. I am here in US for the past 8+ years and I am 33 now. All my friends who have stayed back in India are in very good managerial position and earning well. Money is not the issue now, but the career.
I thought about going back to India and when I started the job search, I ended up seeing myself aged out. Being stuck with my GC, I am now continuing as a Sr Software er for the past 8 years. I did not move up an inch all these years and I did not think it is going to affect my career till now. Now if I look back, I sometime think that I have made wrong choices unknowingly.
In India:
1. I am not fit for Sr Software Er position as guys from college with 2+ years of experience fills that position.
2. I dont want tech lead / team lead as I hear from my friends there it is going back 5years for me for my age.
3. I am not getting project manager position as I do not have any managerial experience.
If I get a good position in India, I am ready to go back. At the same time, I have two kids who are born here in US and I own a house (technically I am proud owner of mortgage debt not house) here in US. I have to close all my debts before I decide to go back.
I AM NOT IN CLEAR STATE OF MIND. MAY BE GETTING GC WILL HELP ME OUT.
Exactly same thoughts cross my mind too. I am planning to finish my Masters, on a part-time basis, after which I have to decide my direction for good. I don't have any kids so that is not a factor to hold me back to this country. But I face my biggest discouragement about returning to my home country, when I think of a typical workplace atmosphere there. If you are working for one of the software firms delivering services to international clients, you might end up as someone who simply follows the orders from overseas clients - working 14-15 hours at least 6 days a week. Add to that the living conditions, feudal bureacracy and you have conjured up a recipe for formidable hardship and frustration. On the other hand, US has a growing economy and newer opportunities come here first. Also I have quite a few friends here who have got theirs GCs and are doing good. So, that serves as a sort of inspiration for me.
So, overall, I am also confused. My wife is my driving force, positive about making it big here- business or corporate world and my only hope. But she has been put up at home, now for more than 4 years; pretty hard to imagine especially with MPhil and an MS from US universities.
I thought about going back to India and when I started the job search, I ended up seeing myself aged out. Being stuck with my GC, I am now continuing as a Sr Software er for the past 8 years. I did not move up an inch all these years and I did not think it is going to affect my career till now. Now if I look back, I sometime think that I have made wrong choices unknowingly.
In India:
1. I am not fit for Sr Software Er position as guys from college with 2+ years of experience fills that position.
2. I dont want tech lead / team lead as I hear from my friends there it is going back 5years for me for my age.
3. I am not getting project manager position as I do not have any managerial experience.
If I get a good position in India, I am ready to go back. At the same time, I have two kids who are born here in US and I own a house (technically I am proud owner of mortgage debt not house) here in US. I have to close all my debts before I decide to go back.
I AM NOT IN CLEAR STATE OF MIND. MAY BE GETTING GC WILL HELP ME OUT.
Exactly same thoughts cross my mind too. I am planning to finish my Masters, on a part-time basis, after which I have to decide my direction for good. I don't have any kids so that is not a factor to hold me back to this country. But I face my biggest discouragement about returning to my home country, when I think of a typical workplace atmosphere there. If you are working for one of the software firms delivering services to international clients, you might end up as someone who simply follows the orders from overseas clients - working 14-15 hours at least 6 days a week. Add to that the living conditions, feudal bureacracy and you have conjured up a recipe for formidable hardship and frustration. On the other hand, US has a growing economy and newer opportunities come here first. Also I have quite a few friends here who have got theirs GCs and are doing good. So, that serves as a sort of inspiration for me.
So, overall, I am also confused. My wife is my driving force, positive about making it big here- business or corporate world and my only hope. But she has been put up at home, now for more than 4 years; pretty hard to imagine especially with MPhil and an MS from US universities.
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philliBECupdate
04-01 11:31 AM
One of a consulting company has received labour approvals from Philli for Feb 2003. I dont have the details now I will post the details on monday its in my office computer. I saw the approval notices 30 days back.
All the labor pettions that the company has applied was approved including the one they applied in Feb 2002. ...Confusing.
All the labor pettions that the company has applied was approved including the one they applied in Feb 2002. ...Confusing.
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billu
09-07 12:46 PM
With so many of us waiting for GCs for 5/10/15 years, makes me wonder what exactly is the motivation??what benefits/advantages does the GC bring ?one major advantage is that the spouse can work (which many of us already have -thanks to july 2007). So being on EAD or Green card-how is this different from h1b?what are some things one can do on GC that they were not able to do on h1b??i am trying to motivate myself for the long wait and need to reinforce that its indeed worth it..
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ragz4u
03-08 10:40 AM
Senator Specter seems to emphasize that he would like to get done with amendments etc. and to make sure that he meets Bill Frist's deadline of March 27th so that it can be debated
Senator Brownback is bringing an amendment to extend J1 visa which apparently expires this year
Will keep on updating as and when I hear things
No visa cap for nurses/physical therapist esp for India, China and Phillipines
Apparently the quorum is not present at the committee to vote on the amendments, but senator Specter is stating whether he will support the amendment or not.
Senator Specter supports Brownback amendment for extending J1 visa.
Senator Leahy agrees with senator Brownback.
Recess until 2.00 pm. Senator Specter says that if enough senators do not arrive by 2.00, most amendments will be decided today. Else the amendments will have to come on the senate floor.
Senator Brownback is bringing an amendment to extend J1 visa which apparently expires this year
Will keep on updating as and when I hear things
No visa cap for nurses/physical therapist esp for India, China and Phillipines
Apparently the quorum is not present at the committee to vote on the amendments, but senator Specter is stating whether he will support the amendment or not.
Senator Specter supports Brownback amendment for extending J1 visa.
Senator Leahy agrees with senator Brownback.
Recess until 2.00 pm. Senator Specter says that if enough senators do not arrive by 2.00, most amendments will be decided today. Else the amendments will have to come on the senate floor.
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09-15 08:34 PM
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Desertfox
03-30 07:03 PM
what about: married filing separately..since both me and my wife are on H1.. we filed separetly last year for some vague reasons!
My guess is that you will probably end up paying more than $600 additional in tax amount.
My guess is that you will probably end up paying more than $600 additional in tax amount.
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vrbest
03-10 10:31 AM
Chase, Union Savings bank, Wells Fargo & Citi. I think if the sales person(agent) talking to us is well informed about our status they will work with the underwriters to get the loan approved- since it helps on their commissions as well.
vrbest, Who is your lender. Can you name the bank you worked with. It might help the some in this group. I have done a Mortgage and 2 re-fi in the past with no issues, but last time, I had issues with Bank of America, Wells Fargo and one other bank (don't remember name). The reason was being on AOS/EAD, They were fine with H1b, but did not understand what EAD / AOS is. It all depends on the underwriter and if he is not knowledgeable on the Visa issues, then you are done. You can't ask for an alternate underwriter. I was able to secure through a credit union though.
vrbest, Who is your lender. Can you name the bank you worked with. It might help the some in this group. I have done a Mortgage and 2 re-fi in the past with no issues, but last time, I had issues with Bank of America, Wells Fargo and one other bank (don't remember name). The reason was being on AOS/EAD, They were fine with H1b, but did not understand what EAD / AOS is. It all depends on the underwriter and if he is not knowledgeable on the Visa issues, then you are done. You can't ask for an alternate underwriter. I was able to secure through a credit union though.
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karanp25
07-11 11:36 AM
I can understand the excitement. I am also in EB2 2005 PD. But the fact is that, this seems like a temporary movement only...i don't think dates can stay at 2006, going by simple math.
PPl can give me those red marks, but i think dates will retrogress again by Oct.
PPl can give me those red marks, but i think dates will retrogress again by Oct.
gctest
09-13 09:59 PM
july 07 filer yes.. but I have a PD of mid 2004... How in the name of almighty is that out of turn?
but you are too stupid anyway
so go home now..... and please don'y forget to pickup meds for your gonorrhea form csv pharmacy :D:D:D
Are you July 07 filer who got the EAD out of turn? I bet you are.
And if you are, keep your loud mouth shut! Before you pontificate, look at people and others like you who got in and created a mess!
but you are too stupid anyway
so go home now..... and please don'y forget to pickup meds for your gonorrhea form csv pharmacy :D:D:D
Are you July 07 filer who got the EAD out of turn? I bet you are.
And if you are, keep your loud mouth shut! Before you pontificate, look at people and others like you who got in and created a mess!
ashutrip
06-20 12:35 PM
Do you know if you got an audit? Any idea about how they decide to do audits?
per my lawyer...chances of audit is less for EB3
per my lawyer...chances of audit is less for EB3
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